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Ichigo and Rukia.

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Weird. Last reply is 2 days ago but when I click in here, it says 4 weeks. >_>

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Quote by iamrobinsenaI actually had some in Japan. During a group trip to Japan last year, one of our stops was in Hiroshima. Needless to say, the morning sightseeing left us pretty bummed, but afterwards we had lunch at a okonomiyaki restaurant. (Apparently Hiroshima is renowned for its okonomiyaki.) There, they gave you prepared okonomiyaki that you cooked and flipped yourself on a skillet on the table, and of course you had your sauces. I ate three by myself! :D

I heard that okonomiyaki is considered the "Japanese pancake". Is there any truth to this?

Yeah it is 'Japanese pancake'. :)

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Quote by hemlig4everhave you read anything of the manga....INOUE FFS!

have you NOT READ anything of the above posts?!?! ~_~

Quote by Kirika-DonoHowever much I like the Inoue/Ichigo pairing, I'm kind of hoping he doesn't end up with anyone, and Kubo leaves it to our imaginations.

Then again, I'm just hoping that Bleach won't be just another anime where the two main characters fall in love and such. ;>_>

I'm very sorry, but really there is no imagination left to imagine, because everything has been so strongly implied. Anime - opening and ending themes are Ichigo/Rukia implied. This is when a couple has been established by the creator but their journey to being an official couple has not been revealed yet.

I don't understand why so many people are complaining about "two main characters falling in love". 99% of the time, it's like this. Why must people complain about Bleach but not other series? It's a formula that everyone is used to, and it works. ;)


Quote by reeningYes, good point there. But if chigo were to go with Rukia, that would be one good point. But in most cases, if you are following the manga, Ichigo and two friends are now in Hueco Mundo, trying to find the kidnapped Inoue. So..anything can happen..and it's all in Kubo's hands...

>_< Yes, I am following the manga. But what most people thought was, Ichigo could like Orihime in this rescue mission just because he showed some feelings for Rukia in her rescue mission. That is not true. He didn't fall in love with Rukia when he was saving her. What kept Ichigo motivated was he ALREADY had those feelings for her before he went out to save her. Otherwise, where did all the motivation come from? So if Ichigo didn't fall in love with Rukia when he was saving her, why should he fall in love with Orihime when he was saving her? He has made it plainly clear that he is going to save Orihime as a friend. In Rukia's case, he wasn't even sure why he wanted to save her, when he knows she belongs in Soul Society. Orihime does not belong in Hueco Mundo. She was kidnapped. It's only right that he goes to save her. If he doesn't go and save her, that is not Kurosaki Ichigo.

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One read at the description of the guy just tells me she should not get married. What a jerk! Never pays for meals, leeches a woman's money, no engagement ring and all? A woman's most important moment in life is when she gets married, a ring is the only most important thing she would cherish until she dies and the guy says he doesn't believe in it? Seriously just dump him and move on! This type of relationship will not end up in a good way at all. The guy should be warded off completely. Women are better off without him. SHOULD NOT GET MARRIED TO THIS GUY.

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Er... yeah the manga they appeared. When I posted this thread, it was 10 weeks ago and that was before Byakuya and Kenpachi appear. XD

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Most people does not realise that the chapter which shows Orihime declaring her love is nothing new. Her love was made known since Chapter 2. In fact, the recent released chapter, Chapter 0a from Volume 23, shows that her love was present even before Rukia entered Ichigo's life. And yet, there have been no development in their relationship beyond that of a friend. The fact that Ichigo has not reciprocated in the 5 years running of Bleach, and his growing relationship with Rukia, including Orihime's jealousy, speak volumes on how painfully one-sided Orihime's love is day by day.

I think people have failed to understand who Ichigo wanted to protect in the first place. From Chapter 0a, he wanted to protect helpless SPIRITS. He feels their pain whenever they disappeared into thin air, he didn't understand soul burial (because Rukia hasn't come into his life yet) and he wanted to put a stop to all these pain he was feeling. Because of Rukia, his circle of protection extended. He had said, he could not protect strangers from monsters in the beginning. But Rukia broke his depression, which he had carried on himself since his mother died. She gave him a new resolution after the Grand Fisher episode, from here he started to see that he will protect EVERYONE from Hollows. However. People again misunderstood that he obtain his shinigami powers for the sake of his friends. No. Ichigo re-obtained his shinigami powers for the sake of saving Rukia. It was for her that he bothered to train. It was for her that he left his family to go for training, to go to Soul Society (family which he cared for, which he wanted to protect). It was for her that he must obtain Bankai. It was for her happiness, that he let her stay in Soul Society. Because it was her decision. And he respected it, by saying, "If you have already decided....then it is good that way,". We could see that he told her to get a rest for 'tomorrow's journey'. He had fully expected her to return to the Human World with him. Wasn't that clear enough? As for her? It was for him that she left him suddenly one night, even though we could see that it pained her to do so. It is for him that she had to act cruelly so that Byakuya will spare his life. It is for him that she denied her true feelings (that she is becoming attached to the Human World), and it is for him that she was willing to accept her punishment and die. Such heavy implications are placed on their understanding and bond with each other shows that it surpasses comradship on every level. Chad and Ichigo are comrades. Yet Rukia and Ichigo's relationship is also greatly different from Chad and Ichigo's. Every single scene of their reunion and separation was done in double or full pages, if not more. What do you think the author is trying to tell us if there is nothing more than 'comradeship' going on? We don't see such heavy emphasis on the emotional impact placed in these drawings and panels when Ichigo and Chad meet again, when Ichigo and Ishida meet again, when Ichigo and Inoue meet again.

Fast forward into the Arrancar Arc. He was deep in depression when Chad, Tatsuki and Inoue were hurt. No-one, if you remember, could cheer him up. His father's normality kick to his face couldn't. Orihime's gentle reassurance couldn't. It was Rukia's re-appearance in his life, Rukia's words that struck a deep nerve in him. If you were in love, everything that person says, or do, will affect you, no matter what. Fast forward to a few chapters. Ichigo as we know, repeatedly refused to join the Vizards. He snapped and gave in, in the chapter after Rukia was hurt. And that was also the chapter where Orihime had caught Ichigo looking so tenderly and utter misery at Rukia. Tell me, have we seen Ichigo with such a face like that in all 241 chapters of Bleach when his friends or family were hurt? We see it in this chapter because the author wants to stress to us readers, that THAT look IS important. You said that Rukia is a shinigami, and she didn't want people to protect her. That's true, that was what Rukia said to Ichigo when he looked at her with guilt on his face. She said, "Do you think you are responsible for my injuries? My injuries are my mistake. I am not so weak that I need your protection." That is Rukia for you. But do we see Ichigo listening? No. He went to the Vizards anyway, to get rid of his problem, so he can protect everyone, including her. In the Soul Society Arc, Ichigo said to Rukia, "Your opinions are rejected. I am going to drag you out no matter what. I am going to save you, no matter what you say." He knows she is stubborn. But he wants to save her, protect her anyway.

Even if you do not acknowledge these subtle romantic hints, that is fine. But it is a fact that their relationship is the main relationship of Bleach, and one that undeniably has the most potential to develop into romance.

Sorry for the excruciatingly long post. x_x

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Quote by say4ct222Ichigo X Rukia heh. Oposites attract.

:sweat: They aren't opposites. They are very alike.

But Ichigo x Rukia ALL THE WAY!

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Renji is very possible, if Ichigo did not appear in Rukia's life. Read Chapter 0b, which was included and released in the Japanese version of Bleach Volume 23.

As for Orihime, it is a bit sadder, because even if Rukia did not appear in Ichigo's life, she wouldn't have a chance anyway, because nothing would have happened, Ichigo would not look at her in any other way more than a friend. Read Chapter 0a, which was also included and released in Japanese version of Bleach Volume 23.

From these two chapters, it is clear that they are fated to meet each other. Fate brought them together, the story of Bleach started with the both of them, and it will make sense for it to end with the both of them.

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From the SOULs Official Character Book (which I own), the Hollow inside Ichigo is STILL named Ichigo. In the VIBEs Official Animation Book (which I also own), it is also being named Ichigo, but it has a nickname, called 'Shiro Ichigo'. Shiro, meaning white. That's all.

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Ichigo marries Inoue and have baby shinigamis? You must be joking.

Ichigo marries RUKIA and they have baby shinigamis.

End of Bleach, Aizen dies, Tousen dies with his eyesight restored, but too late baby, his blind justice has gone to waste, Gin lives, redeemed himself by saving Matsumoto in the last second, also he will go against Aizen. Kenpachi finally learns shikai and bankai.

Rukia stays in the real world and Ichigo marries her.

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Quote by SlichYou guys havent seen chapter 237 of the manga have you?

YES, I did. But it was still Orihime's one sided affections.

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And after that 238? Those 2 episodes bring out a more close relationship between Ichigo and Inoue than you might think...

How is that so? Ichigo would have gone against Soul Society anyway if Chad was kidnapped.

Quote: And then the whole argument that Ichigo only went to save Rukia falls apart.

I think you have misunderstood the argument. Ichigo would go to save ANYONE. The difference is, when Ichigo wants to save Rukia, he was more distraught. He kept having flashbacks of Rukia in the rain during his time at Urahara's shop. He lost his frowns a lot of times. With Inoue, there was no flashback, no rain. The rain is a very important symbol in Ichigo's life. Even Zangetsu himself said, "I hate the rain, Ichigo. When you are sad, it rains in your inner world." And when he left Soul Society, Ichigo said in his heart, "Because of you, Rukia, the rain has stopped falling."

It is without a doubt who Ichigo has feelings for.

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PS. I dont think you should judge the relationships based on the false filler eps...

This I agree. From the manga, it is dead clear that Ichigo and Rukia's relationship has gone to another level when she returned from Soul Society. That's the reason for Orihime's jealousy and sadness.

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Oh and I want to add this....

It is more realistic that he picks Rukia, because that would make the Soul Society Arc more believable....LOVE is the strongest thing after all... :D

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hmm.....after going through the manga all over again, i find ichigo having more feelings for rukia...not just because he really wanted to save her, but if u see his actions he totally has something for her...as for inoue it is just "oh it's u inoue, what's up" or "oh, thank u, inoue." or "i see, inoue."

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Quote by Lemswell.... I don't think she will die, but maybe she will get seriously wounded protecting ichigo... everyone will think that she's gonna die, but miracle MIRACLE ! she's ALIVE and kicking because she made a barrier at the last second... or something like that anyway...
but orihime is my favortite character, ... she can't die...


Sorry! :( She probably won't die. Kubo doesn't like killing off the good guys. He hasn't killed any good guys in these 5 years, so you can relax for now! ^__^

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ICHIGO AND RUKIA! THEY ARE SO FOR EACH OTHER!

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Quote by kyubinarutoWell well, Kubo did say that he's going to make IchiHime cannon.

there is no proof for that. if u are going to say something like that at least provide an official source. just to let you know the standings for bleach pairing in japan, ichiruki is #1 for 2006. ichihime is at #22.
in 2005, ichiruki was #2, #1 was ginKira, and for that year, ichihime was at #19.
this is backed up by a japanese bleach fan.

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Ichigo x Rukia. Renji is just a childhood friend.

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Quote by LanceVIIIi completely agree with you man. bleach and naruto is boring. its ONLY popular because its overrated by people.

there are much better animes out there. but if u like mindless fighting then by all means, watch bleach

yep exactly...the only reason my sister watches Naruto and Bleach is because everyone else likes them...and you shouldn't be like that...don't like something because everyone else likes it...

Personally, I've never watched Bleach and I plan not to, there are better animes out there than that


My sympathy goes out to you for missing one of the best MANGA series in your entire life.

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Although we would know the outcome by Wednesday or Thursday.... XD

What are people's opinions so far on the latest chapter of Bleach? (Chapter 235)

Will Rukia live or die?

I want her to live! Though I don't know whether Kubo Tite will kill her off! X-O T_T :angry:

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Ok ok. I find it strange when people say Ichigo and Rukia comes from different worlds. Look at it this way. Ichigo is a shinigami. And his shinigami powers is not from Rukia. He DISCOVERED HIS OWN shinigami powers THROUGH Rukia. For people who reads the manga only.....

Spoiler:

His father is a shinigami. Ever the more reason he is a pureblood shinigami.

Makes it even more reason that his world belongs in the shinigami world.

2nd point.... Also for people who reads the manga only....

Spoiler:

Kubo loves making opposites. Shinigamis are opposites of Arrancars, Vizards, Shinigami = black clothed. Arrancars = white clothed. Ichigo's bankai = all black. Rukia's shikai = all white. She doesn't have a bankai so we can't compare that far.

Kubo is seriously messing up with all of us. So seriously messing us up that it is NOT FUNNY.

By the way, please check the "Will Orihime die" thread. There are instances of Inoue vs Rukia there. Just a bit, though. Discussions are always good.

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Ok ok ok....first of all I know "inoue vs rukia" is very hot on the internet right now because of the current few chapters that has been released. But let us calm down a bit and try to look into the puzzle.

1. Remember Ichigo fighting with Grimmjaw in 232 and his mask suddenly broke? I suspect it wasn't because his 11 seconds to hold are up.
2. Remember in chapter 234 Ulquiorra appeared and told Orihime if she doesn't go with him back to Hueco Mundo, he will kill her friends? And Ulquiorra showed a wall video of Ichigo, Matsumoto and Hitsugaya. In the middle there is Ichigo. Now in that still motion, his mask JUST broke.
3. What if his mask broke BECAUSE Inoue was in danger?

Ok I know this is a very absurd thinking....because I'm not Kubo, I don't know what is he going to plan next. But I find it scary to think about since I am IchiRuki.

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thanks guys for all your opinions.... i have something else to ask...

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do you guys think that kubo will give us the same dramatic thing normally dramas/animes do? picture this: ichigo got slashed in combat, probably his emotions got owned or something, and in that moment, orihime dashes out (bcos she loves him so much) while shouting 'kurosaki-kun!' and she then casts some spell barrier thing over ichigo, then some aizen hybrid espada vastorode whatever gives her a big big blow as she dashes forward. then ichigo will shoult "inoue!" and this is when we see orihime flying in the air with injury. then we will see sappy endings like orihime finally confessing her love for ichigo and he holds her hand and she closes her eyes.

another possible ending is she doesn't die after all that. and ichigo ends up with her after realising how she has given her life to protect him and he will now in turn protect her for life.

now wouldn't that be a pain in the heart for all rukia and ichigo supporters? i am so going to hate bleach if that is what kubo has in mind. (no offense to ichigo and orihime people please...)

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Not now, maybe 50 chapters ahead. Someone suggested she may die trying to protect Ichigo later on. maybe even the last few pages of Bleach.

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